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Kagura Nikon
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:57:00 -
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can you put some vinager and salt on the would alongside the hurricane? :P
That is almost evil. You could at least give it 1 ms extra speed just to be different :P |
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:10:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Lidia Caderu wrote:it does not need 125mbps,100 is enough. it needs 7 hi slots.
Also I think its needed to add one parameter to ships, it will define maximum drones in space allowed. For Myrm 6-7 Drone optimal range bonus maybe? Can't think of other ships having that right now... :/ Why a parameter for maximum drones in space allowed? That's what drone bandwidth is for...
because he wants to be able to allow you to have 10 drones in space... with 50 meters bandwidth. Or 1 drone with 25 meters... Or 5 in space with 125. To allow flexibility on balancing drone ships. |
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Posted - 2013.04.22 10:28:00 -
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Recoil IV wrote:So the harbinger gets 50% dmg AND a tracking bonus, the brutix gets 50% dmg AND a tracking bonus, the hurricane gets.... 25% ROF, 25% dmg..... something seem off here?
The HUrricane is far far far inferior to the other Navy cruisers. It got its only slot back but not all its old PG. So it basically cannot fit properly that slot.
Its simply a wasted time and effort that ship. The masses of whiners cryign nerf nerf nerf to minmatar on these years made that.. made CCP as ALWAYS overreact. |
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Posted - 2013.04.22 15:34:00 -
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Naomi Knight wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Recoil IV wrote:So the harbinger gets 50% dmg AND a tracking bonus, the brutix gets 50% dmg AND a tracking bonus, the hurricane gets.... 25% ROF, 25% dmg..... something seem off here? The HUrricane is far far far inferior to the other Navy cruisers. It got its only slot back but not all its old PG. So it basically cannot fit properly that slot. Its simply a wasted time and effort that ship. The masses of whiners cryign nerf nerf nerf to minmatar on these years made that.. made CCP as ALWAYS overreact. whinematard stfu
Very insightful and very loaded with knowledge and arguments you answer is. No wonder you are not taken seriously . |
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Posted - 2013.04.23 14:39:00 -
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RavenTesio wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Recoil IV wrote:So the harbinger gets 50% dmg AND a tracking bonus, the brutix gets 50% dmg AND a tracking bonus, the hurricane gets.... 25% ROF, 25% dmg..... something seem off here? The HUrricane is far far far inferior to the other Navy cruisers. It got its only slot back but not all its old PG. So it basically cannot fit properly that slot. Its simply a wasted time and effort that ship. The masses of whiners cryign nerf nerf nerf to minmatar on these years made that.. made CCP as ALWAYS overreact. Been having a play with Theory-crafting each of these in EVE HQ, will have to check them out on SiSi (if they're up there) but for the most part the Hurricane, Harbinger and Drake essentially are a return to the way they were pre-balance. Now you can whine that the "Hurricane isn't as good as it used to be", but with the extra low it provide you with the ability to have an extra Gyro or a Tracking Enhancer - this actually brings it in-line with the others. Also keep in mind that with the base Shield / Armour / Structure, the defence capabilities it has lend itself well to being an extremely good Kiting Ship; as without plates you can get it up to 580 DPS (standard) - 55,000 eHP (in eve) - 1.3k / sec (based mwd) with 6x 425 + 2 Medium Neuts ... that to me is actually puts it pretty on-part with how it used to be with a little wiggle room for Damage or Tracking. .
WHAt extra low? are you drunk? It has 6 lows.. as the normal cane!!!!
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:12:00 -
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Funny when I prompt someoen to count.. and they realyze they have bbeen defendign a ship based on a fetuare that doe snot exist.. the responses stop... |
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:22:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:That Drake makes me say "jesus christ this thing is crazy"
Awesome slot layout, number of hard points etc etc.
Harby looks fine, can even get a nice gankalol shield tank fit !!
That Cane!!! -I don't understand why some are crying about, 6 autocanons+2 HAM launchers with good skills and a bit of testing that thing will most probably be able to dish and apply huge amounts of dps while having a heck of a tank be ti armor or cookie cutter shield.
Hell even if you put 2 neuts instead of 2 launchers this Cane is really fecking awesome (without missile support+spec skills don't even think about it). For those saying it's only the old Cane, well the "old" cane was clearly OP and did never deserved the standard flag but the "winmatar" one, believe me or not I've flow lots of them and I'm very happy with the new T1 cane is in line with the other ones.
I'm fine with these 3 above, however I'm a little bit disappointed Brutix didn't got a 7th turret but I can perfectly understand also the 10% ROF on 6 guns is a higher dps bonus than 5% on 7 turrets, I'm just doing my childish thing "me wants"
4 mids is ok, prop tackle and cap injector to support local reps or add some other stuff like double web or ewar like tracking disruptor or even sebo for sniping fits -lol snipe with it before med rails get a big dps ass kick
7 lows is perfect for either local tanking or buffer fits on this ship size and on top, 50M3 of Drones is fantastic, offers options for dps ewar or even light logisitcs, really good imho
Overall this seems quite reasonable as new Navy ships and bonus, not completely op nor sub, they all seem interesting but I might be missing something.
NB: erm, Fozzie? -do you think there's something you can do about med rails or do you think after internal testing this rof bonus change instead of dmg will make them better?
check the fittings. The cane got its hiugh slot back but not the PG. Its ALMOST impossible to fit 2 neuts without gimping yourself completely. |
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Posted - 2013.05.22 14:44:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Jureth22 wrote:i`ve been playing with em in eft for a while now and it seems like all of them are even and useless.i wouldnt release them with oddysey,unless a major update comes along for them. The fact that hoards of people think they suck as well as ar op probably means the balance is pretty close to spot on...
People that say that they are OP are just he ones disregarding their cost or showing how they step into the role of the battleships.
They are not impressive (specially the hurricane) but have too many HP to be BC, since they overstep on attack Battleship levels. But that is moslty because battleshisp themselves are too weak. |
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:56:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Too much focus on how these hulls will behave in PVP - it's not the be all and end all. I'm sure the Navy Drake/Fleet Hurricane will be fine for PVE.
Balance is irrelevant on PVE. PVE is a subproduct of PVP in this game and all balance should catter to PVP First |
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